deedub81
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Real Name: Dale
Birthdate: November 17th, 1981 (26 years old)
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- Hmmm. Let's see... - 6'5" 240lbs - Blue eyes - Brown Hair - Conservative - Grew up on the Beach, moved to the mountains. - Love playing Water Polo and Volleyball, riding Moto X, and spending time in the outdoors. - Yep. That should do it. -
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What missionaries study during personal study is really different depending on your mission and when. In some missions it's only BOM/mission materials, in some it's BOM + a specific set of books (Jesus the Christ, etc...). In ours it was "whatever is good".

What do you believe about the whole Adam-God thing as it relates to Brigham Young's salvation?

I think Brigham Young was trying to get at some point other than the one he got across. What point that was, I have no idea.


written by jmzero  | 3 weeks 1 day ago | CH
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I promise I wouldn't attempt to deceive you about what I believe. That gets me nowhere. Why would I do that. I'm not shy or ashamed. This video is full of half truths and mixed up facts. It isn't a fair or correct explanation of the Mormon religion by any stretch of the imagination.

(edit: the above quote was from you in my member comments)

I'm an active Mormon and an RM. I'm not speaking out of any kind of ignorance. The video in question was obviously hateful and misleading - but the facts stated were usually either correct with current doctrine, or are at least supported by statements from past church leaders. Have you read Mormon Doctrine, "Answers to Gospel Questions" (by Joseph F Smith), or read much of Brigham Young's discourses?

I'm not exactly anti-Mormon (repeat: I'm an active Mormon), but there's more to the Church than they teach you in Sunday School - and some doctrinal issues are fairly complicated. If you have specific factual objections to the video, please feel free to post them, but I don't think it does anyone any good to say it's all lies when it's mostly true.

It's like the South Park Mormon episode. I had a lot of friends who complained about the stones in the hat. "That's not how it went!!!" they said. Well, yes, it was done like that sometimes. A lot of people were mad at South Park, when instead perhaps they should have been lamenting that they were learning about their religion from it.


written by jmzero  | 3 weeks 1 day ago | CH
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No I think all these are creations and manifestations of man, I could claim to receive Gods word now, the only thing stopping you or anyone else taking me serious is how far you are willing to believe this applies to Scientology, Mormonism, Islam, Christianity and all other religons.

At the end of the day all religions are creations of man, not the creation of God. Thus they are wrong. I too am being 100%.

There is no way anyone can convince anyone else that the Bible or any scripture is made by God.

In reply to this comment by deedub81:
So, you agree with me that the only similarities have to do with flak from others.

Is that so much more different than the accounts of Moses claiming to part the Red Sea, or Noah building an arc? Why is it okay for some to claim to have received the word of God 2000 years ago, and not okay for them to say they received the word of God yesterday?

I'm being 100% serious.

In reply to this comment by Farhad2000:
L. Ron Hubbard makes shit up about Xenu, DC-10s, thetans and all that good stuff.

Joseph Smith makes shit up about getting golden plates from an Angel. Oh and Jesus visited America, multiple gods and worlds. Oh by the way they also have modern prophets whose official statements become official canon.

I was relating them as two relatively modern belief systems with questionable origins. Not directly.

In reply to this comment by deedub81:
What's questionable about Mormonism as it relates to Scientology? I fail to see any similarities, other than the amount of scrutiny the two receive.

Scientology has a known history of abuse, illegal activity, and motives for world domination, for lack of a better term.

Where are the parallels?

In reply to this comment by Farhad2000:
You sound like a nice person whose trying to defend a religion that has questionable origins and backgrounds.

It's like Scientology. Also based on questionable facts, but am sure there are some nice folks who practice it.

I don't really understand what you mean by anti-Mormon propaganda, I would love if you could show me some sources.



written by Farhad2000  | 3 weeks 1 day ago | CH
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Hey dude. I appreciate your willingness to chat, and I'd be happy to discuss topics within the context of the video comment discussions, but I don't want to move the discussion into my profile.


written by braindonut  | 3 weeks 1 day ago | CH
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L. Ron Hubbard makes shit up about Xenu, DC-10s, thetans and all that good stuff.

Joseph Smith makes shit up about getting golden plates from an Angel. Oh and Jesus visited America, multiple gods and worlds. Oh by the way they also have modern prophets whose official statements become official canon.

I was relating them as two relatively modern belief systems with questionable origins. Not directly.

In reply to this comment by deedub81:
What's questionable about Mormonism as it relates to Scientology? I fail to see any similarities, other than the amount of scrutiny the two receive.

Scientology has a known history of abuse, illegal activity, and motives for world domination, for lack of a better term.

Where are the parallels?

In reply to this comment by Farhad2000:
You sound like a nice person whose trying to defend a religion that has questionable origins and backgrounds.

It's like Scientology. Also based on questionable facts, but am sure there are some nice folks who practice it.

I don't really understand what you mean by anti-Mormon propaganda, I would love if you could show me some sources.



written by Farhad2000  | 3 weeks 1 day ago | CH
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I'm glad you like it!

I also really love this version for different reasons (because the backup singers are better and because it's live. And I like the tempo and especially the tempo changes for dramatic effect.):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLWMvecIoOY

...but I thought that the black and white Paul Robeson version is much more authentic, sincere, musical, and all-around awesome. And the solo vocals are better, obviously.

In reply to this comment by deedub81:
This was the song I performed at my first vocal recital!
Watching Paul Robeson brings tears to my eyes. He's so good. You can just feel his emotions through the screen.

I've watched this 3 times now.
Can't you just hear me singing along with it now?

Love it. Good find, thepinky. *3



written by thepinky  | 3 weeks 2 days ago | CH
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my mistake.

In reply to this comment by deedub81:
You downvoted my comment on this video, and then you elaborated on the same point I was making.

?

In reply to this comment by jwray:
Alienation does not elicit the truthtelling. Unfalsifiable stories are easily fabricated. Torture does not work. A slow process of building rapport does work.



written by jwray  | 3 weeks 2 days ago | CH
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Happy you agree!


written by qualm  | 3 weeks 2 days ago | CH
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And what is Wikipedia?? The World Bible?? LOL
In reply to this comment by deedub81:
From Wikipedia: Pornography or porn is the explicit depiction of sexual subject matter, especially with the sole intention of sexually exciting the viewer.



In reply to this comment by LadyDeath:
fyi dita von teese video is not porn

In reply to this comment by deedub81:
This isn't porn? Hmmm.



written by LadyDeath  | 3 weeks 4 days ago | CH
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Yeah, you're definitely right.

You're not an ignoramous, though. You know what women's suffrage is. If you had never heard the term before, say, you had always heard it called "a woman's right to vote," and someone came up to you with a camera asking you to sign a petition to end it, wouldn't you assume that women's suffrage was something negative? And some people know that it is associated in some way with voting rights, but they think it is the opposite.

And who's to say that those guys didn't meet more girls who knew what suffrage is and just didn't put them in the video? Psh.

The real reason that I hate that video is because by making the video, those guys were trying to make some kind of statement, and I just wonder what statement they were trying to make. I don't think it is a good one.


written by thepinky  | 3 weeks 4 days ago | CH
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Oh, yeah, I've seen that one before. It makes me sick. I don't blame those girls, though. I blame their idiotic American educations, parents and teachers who didn't teach them about feminist history, and mean documentary filmmakers who try to trap the poor ignorant things. And you have to admit that "suffrage" sounds a lot like suffering is involved. Haha.

In reply to this comment by deedub81:
Oh, that's good.

Don't forget about this one: http://www.videosift.com/video/Ending-Womens-Suffrage



written by thepinky  | 3 weeks 5 days ago | CH
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fyi dita von teese video is not porn

In reply to this comment by deedub81:
This isn't porn? Hmmm.


written by LadyDeath  | 3 weeks 5 days ago | CH
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Your algorithm march video isn't working. And...

Check out the video I submitted. It's right up my alley.


written by thepinky  | 3 weeks 6 days ago | CH
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written by thepinky  | 3 weeks 6 days ago | CH
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kulpims said it best.

i read all the comments.

it's a disgusting situation.


In reply to this comment by deedub81:
If you would have read my previous comment, that's exactly what I said. So go give Kulpims a high five for agreeing with me.

In reply to this comment by MINK:
kulpims! blam! blam! blam! blam! QUADRUPLE HIT SUPERCOMBO!

The nice americans give the nasty americans support to go rape other countries.

What the nice americans SHOULD be saying is "That's illegal. Stop that immediately. People are dying."

but no, they go on and on about "helping" some more.



written by MINK  | 1 month ago | CH
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